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October 06, 2008 | by Dan Fulmer

Q. I own more than 6,000 LD/DVD/HD-DVD/BD, and would like a media server capable of handling even more. Is there anything out there (other than Kaleidescape’s $30k option) to handle this volume? - Michael, NYC

A. While pricey, Kaleidescape is one of the best and most reliable systems available. They do offer other systems that can start as low as $15,000, but you have 6,000 movies which will take a considerable amount of space. I am one for having reliability with movies/music and other general media content, so getting a system with some type of automatic and built-in backup is key. A RAID system will do the trick, but adds cost to any system. Obviously, there are several software/PC based systems available, but they lack the reliability and usability of some of the better systems. Sony has discontinued its 777 400 disc DVD changer, so the only storage options that remain are hard-drive based. With copyright issues and legal problems plaguing this area, this has become a major barrier for other manufacturers to get in the media server market without being susceptible to lawsuits.

One possible option is Crestron’s (not yet released) ADMS Digital Media Server (photo below). This unique product doesn’t import to a hard-drive per se, but can access the Internet and find just about any movie. It even has Amazon Unbox and HD Media Store from VideoGiants hosted natively. With respect to your existing collection, the ADMS can add to its collection any music or movies stored on any hard-drive, PC, or other media storage device on your home network. It will load all meta-data making it easy to manage a huge collection. It can be mated up with the new Blu-ray 200 Disc DVD changer. THe ADMS comes in 2 versions; one with a standard DVD player and 500GB RAID storage, and the other comes with a Blu-ray disc drive and 1TB RAID storage. The best part of this system, it starts around $6,000 and works great. 

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Posted by Dave  on  11/04/08  at  03:19 PM

I disagree with all of you.  Have you head of Axonix?  Check them out.  They have servers to 13TB’s.  Stack a few of these together and you have your answer.  Request is nice but it is not even shipping yet.  The Crestron is not a solution either

Posted by mike from nyc  on  11/01/08  at  07:27 AM

Thank you, everyone, for your very helpful advice.

I have been collecting movies I like since ‘92 when i bought my first LD player ( I owned many VHS before that, but tossed out the player in 97 with DVD when I purchased a Pioneer DV-414. ( It finally broke down about 1 month ago...sad event).

I also own many non-region 1 movies, and have a couple region free players.  This complicates the mess.

I replaced all the DVD covers with 5mm slim cases, and now maxing out storage for newer titles.  I’ve built a MS Access DB to search the tiles (and loan to friends...).

So, all of that to say, Cinema is my favorite pasttime, and I’ve developed a love for quality equipment for playback and display as well - hence, when I heard of Kaleidescapes’s product, I wanted it...until I saw the price.

I thought of the media server PC solution, but thought it would cost more than my whole collection… and my experience with Crashing PCs left me a bit weary of that option.

I’d promise to tell you what solution i came up with, but it will be long gone from anyone’s memory by then :).

I appreciate your direction and will literally be looking into each promising option here.

best wishes,
mike from NYC

Posted by Stephen Hopkins  on  10/31/08  at  08:54 AM

I’m looking at doing something similar to this on a smaller scale, but it should be do-able.  Do you, by any chance, already have Tivo HD/S3 systems running in your home?  If so, you can use it as the front-end and a server running TivoStream as the storage solution.  This solution is somewhat specific in the file-formats it will accept… DVDs and HD sources should be ripped to or converted to h.264 video and AC3 audio in a .mp4 container. 

To accomodate 6000 DVDs in this format (around 1.5gb each) you’ll need around 10tb of storage.  To leave room for expansion you’ll probably want more like 15tb.  With a library of this size you’ll want some sort of RAID, so now we’re talking 30tb.  The hardware could be put together for around $5k, but you’re going to have a rack full of server cases with 7-10 drives each. 

That’s not even the hard part.  It’s going to take forever to rip 6000 discs.  This is the part I’d farm out to someone else… if you can get someone to provide a pay service that flirts with the lines (and technically crosses) of what is/isn’t fair use..

Posted by johny  on  10/17/08  at  03:54 PM

Ok, this is inexpensive and works. Quality is great also. Build your own server 2-4 terrabyte can be pc or mac can be manual back up or raid and will run itunes software.
use the apple tv (least expensive one) streams from server you need one per tv side (you can serve 5 tv’s @ 1080i)
use sylsoft.com to build your own library on your server from the dvd’s or Blueray DVD you own. only limited by space of hard disks. can also purchase movies or rentals on fly if you get a wild hair (from itunes)

Posted by mike  on  10/10/08  at  02:27 PM

There is not manufactured solution that could really meed the need for storage of 6000 DVDs. The Kaleidescape 3U server can only store 1800 DVDs, so this person would need 4 of the servers to hold his whole collection. That quadruples what he already thinks is too much. from what i’ve seen there is NO manufactured solution for this question. Assuming the dvds are stored how all dvd server manufacturers do it (uncompressed) it will require at least 24TB of storage. This would require buying/making the server and providing a front end that will work with the server. This situation would best be done with a custom install done through “renting a nerd”


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