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October 29, 2007 | by Steven Castle

The owners of this home theater had one in a previous house, but for their new one they wanted something better.

Gregg Schwartz of Trage Brothers Electronics & Appliances of Forest Park, IL, had already consulted with the builder about the best location for the home theater. That was in the basement. The homeowners experienced a similar system in Trage’s showroom, heard Schwartz’s pitch to isolate the room for sound as much as possible, and gave the go-ahead.

“We needed to prevent the sound in the room from permeating into other areas of the house,” Schwartz says. The homeowners were particularly concerned about people playing cards in an adjacent area being distracted by the home theater sounds, so Trage unrolled a 1-pound-per-square-foot sound barrier material behind each of the walls, built out double walls—or a wall within a wall—on the two sides not abutting the foundation, and insulated the walls and isolated them with isolation brackets. These clips connect the wall to the floor but also have rubber between to absorb or deaden sound from traveling through.

In addition, a “floating floor” was constructed by rolling out the sound barrier and then placing plywood on top of that. “The reason we do the floating floor is to get the low-frequency vibration from the subwoofer through your butt,” says Schwartz. In other words, the floor has some flex that enhances bass-level special effects in movies.

A Sim2 Domino30 single-chip DLP projector shines on a fixed and perforated Stewart Filmscreen display, with Energy Veritas speakers placed behind it. There are two inches of mineral fiber sound insulation behind the screen, with cutouts for the three speakers. A Denon AVR-5805 10-channel receiver pumps 140 watts per channel to the speakers, providing plenty of juice. “It’s not the pinnacle of home theater, but bang for its buck it gives you as much as you need,” says Schwartz.



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Steven Castle is a writer, editor, and humorist who recently completed Filthy Rich Things, a savage satire on our thirst for success and wealth. He is presently expanding his magazine work by writing more about alternative energy sources and green building.


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Posted by Thaddeus Bonk  on  11/02/07  at  12:00 PM

FINALLY. See, now this article is ACTUALLY interesting. Why? Because a breakdown of the costs has appeared. It’s a shame that it had to take the comments section to make it appear, but, it’s nice to know ballparks for DIY and professional help. Every article shoudl be informatative as to ideas of cost and what’s involved.

Now was that so hard?

Posted by barney  on  11/01/07  at  06:59 PM

ha, told ya ;)

Posted by Gregg Schwartz  on  11/01/07  at  05:56 PM

I love the fact that everyone has an opinon on the relative “value” of the theater. As a trade professional I can help quantify the costs to help the DIY people get a sens of where they can save and put some additional light on the equipment. This theater was completed in mid 2005, so component prices will reflect the period sold in.

Room Build out (framing, riser, double plywood floor,electrical, double 5/8” drywall, trim, ext door for entry, painting, carpeting)  $15,000.00 NOT unreasonable.
Acoustiblok 1lb rubber sound deadner for 4 walls and ceiling $5,000.00
Acoustiblok floating floor material 16” on center $3,000.00
Can Lighting 6 in panels 2 in angled ceiling, 6 sconces. $1,800.00
LEDlighting step and riser edge lighting $ 500.00
Accoustiblok Interior wall & ceiling panels. $ 5,000.00
(6) Berkline Leather & Motorized Chairs $5,000.00
Lutron Grafic Eye Lighting control $1,800.00
Stewart Filmscreen 130” ST130 PERF & Motorized masking with controllers. $7,000.00
Sim 2 Domino30 Projector $6,000.00
Middle Atlantic SRSR 4-20 Rack $1,200.00
Software Racks $300.00
Audioquest 32’ HDMI 6% silver $900.00
Denon AVR5805 $5,000.00
Denon DVD5910 $ 3,000.00
(7) Energy Veritas V2.3 6,000.00
Velodyne DD15 cherry $2,500.00
Universal Remote MX3000 & MRF350 rcvr $1,250.00
Audioquest Interconnects (top quality) $500.00
Mineral Fiber behind screen $300.00
Labot to design, project manage construction, gather equipment, install all components listed, program, calibrate, test ALL, demonstrate to customer. $7,000.00 (est 100hrs man labor)

Gear is 50k
Room is 15k
Labor is 7k
TOTAL is $72,000.00

Can you save if you do it yourself, sure. But what if you make $1,000.00 per day at your job. I pay to have my oil changed, tires rotated, brakes repaired etc. It is all relative.

What matters is the client absolutly loves the theater and uses it 4-5 nights per week with the family. Bulb still looks good after 2,000 plus hours of use. It is a joy to produce an enjoyable entertainment room for wonderful clients!

We appreciate all our clients who have selected Trage Brothers since 1943 for Electronics & appliances. www.trage.com

Posted by Christopher C. Pflaum  on  11/01/07  at  12:11 AM

Barney:

Maybe what we are relaying to readers is that one can build this HT for quite a bit less than $70k. For all we know, the general contractor ripped these folks.

I served as my own GC on my project but that was the extent of my “work”, it was definitely not DIY. BTW my finish is probably better than the HT in the article, upholstered upper walls, upholstered sound panels on the doors, custom millwork, etc.

So, it is important to anyone considering building an HT like that described to know that it can be done for a lot less—a public service announcement, if you will.

Posted by barney  on  10/31/07  at  06:04 PM

ok, so are we saying 70k is too much or too little? and obviously, there is more to a theater than it’s av componants - lighting, walls, flooring, doors, not to mention labor. any re-routing of plumbing, electrical… if you are able to do some of that yourself, you can save a bundle and that could skew the numbers significantly. true, there’s not a lot of info on what they paid per these items, but to say they are exaggerating (or diminishing) the final cost, without knowing the whole project is pretty silly. it’s a nice theater, i would love to have it in my home. not sure why the price is such a hangup. if they have 70k too spend on it, they obviously aren’t hurting for money.


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