I do not utilize an anamorphic lens for my CIH setup, so I have the flexibility of adjusting the zoom to accommodate for poorly placed subtitles. This is a hassle and would prefer either the option to move the subs or have them placed completely in the film frame. The problem I have with subtitles placed outside of the film frame is that the movie has now been changed from what you experience in the theater. In order to watch the movie as it was intended, I need to break the law by ripping the blu-ray and then demux and remux to give me the ability to place the subtitles back to their original location. A little backwards if you ask me.

Forgot to post this. Philips has a new bluray player that allows you to shift subtitles: Philips BDP9100
Unfortunately it currently is only available in Europe and is locked to region B for bluray.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1160096

@John:  does the Phillips player shift all subtitles, or only the ones selectable from the menu?  I’m not sure if it matters, but for a title like Pan’s Labrynth(sp?)  on DVD the subtitles are part of the movie frame, and should not be movable.

I have not been able to use this player as I am in the states, but from what I have read, it was able to move subtitles either up or down and was working on all of the bluray discs that Anssi was able to test.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1160096

Paul, are you referring to “burnt” subtitles? That’s the term used to identify subtitles that are part of the actual encoded video vs subtitles being rendered by the player in the subtitle stream.

If that’s what you’re referring to, then no player could accomplish this, it’d have to shift the actual video upwards, and that would just suck. :-)

For myself, this is the ONLY reason why I don’t consider going tot a CIH setup. Nearly a third of the films we watch are subtitled, and most of them tend to be in a scope aspect ratio with this issue effecting them. (sigh)

All the subtitle problems are solved with the new Philips BDP9100 blu-ray player you can put them where you want… exellent

Couldn’t you just flip up the long black piece and put the words under that?  My Alpha-Allen 3.5 side-winder lets me do this.

Thank you lens for the explanation.