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What You Need to Know About 1080p
Samsung HL-S5679W 1080p TV
February 22, 2007 | by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
The"holy grail” of high definition is popping up in displays and components. We take a close look at this Full HD technology.
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Posted by old guy  on  02/15  at  06:59 PM

As it is few broadcasts are in HD, be that 720p or 1080i.  Many of the broacasts on cable, even the HD designated channels, frequently do not pipe the signal in HD.

Right now 1080p is marketing hype to push more product, but the real problem is HD content.

It is difficult to see broadcasters upgrading to 1080p for content when the carriers are having enough problem dealing with the existing standards. There inceintive to upgrade is ?

Finally, the FCC mandate to convert from analog to digital does not mandate digital HD.

If I am wrong, please let me know

Posted by Wulfman  on  02/16  at  08:21 PM

That is exactly what I have heard. While 1080P is the holy grail and your really buying future proofing, there is little full HD 1080P content.

I’m in the CE industry (but not TV’s so not a real expert) and advise my freinds who ask to go 1080P as there is nothing after that and costs are relatively close. Eventually content will catch up I suppose.

Posted by noonanm  on  02/21  at  11:52 AM

What kind of connection from source to display will carry 1080p?  I have heard that component will not deliver, only HDMI, and only HDMI 1.3? Can someone post the resolution limits of s-video, component and hdmi?

Posted by dannyboy  on  02/21  at  02:15 PM

This is one of the only articles on 1080P that I have read that deals honestly with the distance factor. Kudos to the author, Mr Rosenthal. The bottom line is, if you own a “lesser” HDTV now, don’t worry about it. The human eye cannot tell the difference once you get away from a few feet-and even then, you really have to look hard to notice it. And who watches a big screen from 5 feet anyway? My first flat panel TV was a 42” EDTV plasma which I have since sold to a friend. And you know what? You cannot tell the difference between that and a 42” HDTV. Everybody is blown away by the picture and thinks it’s HDTV!
So save your money unless you are looking at your first HDTV-then go 1080P. Otherwise wait till you need a new one.

Posted by mac  on  02/22  at  12:34 PM

@noonanm: I asked the author of this piece—Marshal Rosenthal—to answer your question. Here’s his response:

“Without getting into techno-babble, the simple response would be that you can get up to 1080p at about equal quality from Component as well as HDMI (not taking into account for the moment such issues as content copy protection and the like). Quality differences depend more on the nature of the original content - is it originating in 1080p or some other format?  If it’s in some other format, the effects of changing it to 1080p swamp out any minor effects due to HDMI vs. Component.

As to HDMI—the versions will reflect changes (for example 1.3 adding color depth, lip sync, etc.) but don’t impact the basic way that HDMI carries 1080p signals. Composite and S-Video both handle 480i (S-Video improving upon the color) and so could be considered “standard TV resolution” that we’ve all grown up with.

So if you’re going to HD you have to start with Component at least.”

Posted by Big Byrd  on  02/22  at  01:45 PM

What TV manufacturers offer HDMI 1.3?  What about HDMI1.3 receivers?  Does anyone know when whole house sound and video manufacturers (like Russound’s CAV system) will ever use HDMI connections (ecspecially since they are whole house video)?

Posted by gordon  on  02/22  at  04:23 PM

Denon is said to have a couple A/V receivers with HDMI 1.3 support coming in July (AVR-4308ci and AVR-3808ci) and more in September (AVR-1508, AVR-1708 and AVR-2808). Details are sketchy but it’s a start.

Posted by TechSpaces  on  02/23  at  01:14 PM

It was my understanding that even if a 1080p display is being fed a 1080i signal, it is still deinterlacing and showing a progressive scan image.  Even lower resolutions would have to be scaled, would they not? Obviously it is a processed image, so it seems logical that a good processor is something you want to look for, especially since the TV is not going to get much native 1080p content for a while.

Posted by Gary Pillon  on  02/23  at  05:46 PM

The point of a 1080p display is to show a complete 1920x1080 image 60 times a second.
At that rate, you are approaching the work of
graphics pioneer Douglas Trumbell’s “Show Scan” system, which was based on a 72 frames per second film display.
  The research done back then showed that information would be processed by the brain AS IF it was real, even though viewers consciously knew they were waatching a movie.
  To see this in action, get a good demo of a Sony VPL-VW50 projector playing a Blu-Ray disk
from a Playstation 3 via HDMI. At a distance of 3 times the screen height, the screen takes on the feel of a picture window. Your mind “beileves” that is looking at reality, not shaadows

Posted by KevinJ  on  02/23  at  08:21 PM

I think the article was a non-techno bable that most can understand. The reality here is that most people want the future now and not buy something they will have to upgrade in 2009 since “the government” said that is when analog is dead. This now setup the industry for what they call unfunded mandates because they wanted to still give us the shaft in technology and stretch out analog until probably 2109 just like the automobile industry until we said uhhh we are running out of fossil fuel. So now we are at a cross-roads. We have alot of SD (standard definition or regular TV) content which includes DVD material and digital cable. The industry wants to treat HD as an emerging technology which it is not, its 2007 not 2001. So broadcasters and cable companies are milking the consumers for what they want and what the government said they would give consumers by 2009. Broadcast is no different than the IT industry that has anual spending and return on investment. There is no reason for broadcasters to not want to upgrade to get their programming out there to compete with the exception that the other industry has prevented it because they want to give the shaft to consumers in pricing and technology to: TV manufacturers. For HDTV you get ripped by the TV manfacturers for faulty high priced hardware and like most people you get sub-par HD content from cable operators which upconvert content to make you believe it is HDTV which is the latest shaft. It is crazy that this country a world leader has to be last in everything except military. In Europe their regular TV makes our SD look really old. At least the US could have taken an interim step to convert to 576p or 720p to allow better upconversion to future 1080p. Instead we are upconverting from 480i to 1080p. That is a heck of a upconvert.

Posted by John T. Moore,Jr.  on  02/27  at  03:10 AM

What do the folks know about HP’s late MD6580n DLP Microdisplay HDTV 1080p.  It has a 65” display.  I would love to hear info from your experiences with this TV.  It was once compared to the 13,000 dollar Sony Quallia in almost the exact quality of picture.

Thx,

John T. Moore,Jr.
jtmj

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